Gentile, Not Gentle
LTC Gian Gentile, a good friend of AM, is many things, but gentle is not one of them. In his most recent essay attacking the “newness” and the wisdom of the surge, he starts with a bang:
The U.S. Army’s new strategy in Iraq—launched in February 2007, along with a surge of 25,000 additional American troops—qualifies neither as particularly new nor even as a strategy. Better to call it, instead, an enhanced reliance on tactics and operational concepts previously in use. Or, put less charitably, an over-hyped shift in emphasis that, on the one hand, will not necessarily yield an American victory in Iraq but, on the other, might well leave the United States Army crippled in future wars.Come on Gian, don't hold back, tell us what you really think!
More seriously, Gentile’s critique boils down to a two-pronged attack:
1. COIN best practices were adopted much earlier and on a much wider scale by the U.S. Army and Marines in Iraq than the standard surginista narrative suggests; and therefore . . .
2. Any success during the surge cannot be attributed primarily to the adoption of these same tactics in 2007.
Gentile is mostly wrong about #1, and partially right about #2.
As evidence for his first claim, Gentile asserts the following:
A record consisting of published articles and anecdotal accounts as well as my own observations during two combat tours in Iraq shows clearly that most U.S. Army units had learned, adapted to, and absorbed the array of techniques and procedures for counterinsurgency at least as far back as mid-2004. When I was in Tikrit as a Brigade Combat Team Executive Officer in mid-2003, my unit was already executing counterinsurgency operations, rebuilding the area’s economic infrastructure, restoring essential services, and establishing governance projects. When I was training my cavalry squadron a year later, we focused nearly exclusively on counterinsurgency. In 2005, the president himself committed the United States to a “clear, hold and build” doctrine in his “National Strategy for Victory in Iraq,” even as the Army’s Training and Doctrine Command devised a new counterinsurgency doctrine, units at training centers immersed themselves in counterinsurgent tactics and procedures, and company commanders arriving in Iraq rotated through the counterinsurgency school in Taji.The problem with Gentile's story is that it is largely contradicted by the evidence. To be sure, there were some units who “got it” early—Petraeus in 2003-2004 and Chiarelli in 2004-2005 are prominent examples at the Division level, and there were certainly Brigade, Battalion, and Company commanders who “got it” very early at the retail level—but it is simply untrue that, across the force, COIN best practices were employed. A summer 2005 review for General Casey of nearly every U.S. unit in Iraq by Kalev Sepp and COL Bill Hix found that COIN best practices were applied very unevenly. Indeed, it was this conclusion, and the fact that units were not getting adequate training at their home stations and the combat training centers, that led Casey to establish the COIN academy Gentile mentions at Taji in late 2005. This uneven performance was also the impetus for the push to radically rewrite U.S. COIN doctrine, the increased emphasis on COIN in Army and Marine school houses, and the dramatic changes in training at the JRTC, NTC, JMTC, and 29 Palms.
A cursory glance at the U.S. Army’s Military Review, which features articles written by and meant for officers with on-the-ground experience, makes the point. In an article written after a tour with the 1st Cavalry Division in south Baghdad in 2004, Lieutenant Colonel Doug Ollivant notes that his combat battalion quickly adopted the precepts of counterinsurgency, taking its cue from theories detailed by French officer David Galula in his classic 1964 volume Counterinsurgency Warfare: Theory and Practice. In a similar vein, Colonel Ralph O. Baker, a brigade commander in the 1st Armored Division, wrote in Military Review that to be successful during its 2003––2004 deployment in Baghdad, his brigade devoted nearly 70 percent of its time and activities to nontraditional missions such as information operations and other counterinsurgent functions. A recent report from a junior noncommissioned officer currently on his third tour in Baghdad observed that “nothing has changed” in his unit’s operations in the eastern side of the city from his previous two deployments.
There are, to be sure, distinctions to be drawn—though mostly on paper—between pre- and post-surge operations. General George Casey’s (and the White House’s) official strategy was to “stand-up” Iraqi Security Forces; under his successor, General Petraeus, the favored concept tends to be population security. Even during my 2006 tour under General Casey, however, I was never prodded to modify the counterinsurgency operations for which my battalion had trained and which it was executing around the clock in west Baghdad; nor were the units operating alongside mine similarly dissuaded. On the contrary, by providing a baseline of security in our sector, we were assured and encouraged that our counterinsurgency operations furthered the goal of transferring authority to the Iraqi Security Forces. The counterargument—that American forces had settled so comfortably on forward operating bases that they all but quit the country around them—is flatly and directly contradicted by the operational record. My squadron, 8-10 Cavalry, Fourth Infantry Division, conducted close to 3,500 combat patrols and operations during our year in west Baghdad.
The number one principle in effective COIN is to treat the population as the center of gravity. Dr. iRack knows that, from the very beginning of the war, U.S. forces have handed out plenty of candy, supported endless local reconstruction efforts, conducted information operations, etc. all in an attempt to win Iraqi “hearts and minds.” But these efforts usually proved ineffective because the population was not protected first. Indeed, through mid-2005, most U.S. operations focused on the enemy not securing the population. An unclassified “Irregular Warfare Study” conducted as part of the 2006 Quadrennial Defense Review process analyzed 127 specific counterinsurgency operations in Iraq from May 2003-May 2005. The study concluded that (a) most operations were raids and sweeps designed to hunt down insurgents (only 6 percent were directed specifically toward creating a secure environment for the Iraqi population); (b) most operations involved large-scale units (divisions and brigades) rather than small units; and (c) most operations (56 percent) lasted one day or less, with most multi-day operations being set-piece assaults on urban areas.
The result was a standard pattern: U.S. units would clear an area and move on, only to see insurgents and militias reinfiltrate the vacated area and resume terrorizing the population. Sometimes the ISF would be left behind in an attempt to “hold” cleared areas, as the 2005 "National Strategy for Victory in Iraq" stated; sometimes not. (The campaign plan at the time emphasized "transition" not U.S.-led COIN.) And even when the ISF were present, they were generally not up to the task or, worse, were complicit in the violence. This became particularly evident in the summer of 2006—the very time Gentile was on his second tour—with the failures of Operations Together Forward I and II in Baghdad.
Furthermore, securing the population means living with the population. Yet starting in 2004, most U.S. forces withdrew from Iraqi cities and consolidated onto large FOBs. This was done for force protection reasons. It was also an attempt to lessen the daily presence of U.S. forces on Iraqi streets to reduce the perception of occupation that, according to Generals Abizaid and Casey, drove much of the insurgency. Thus, even as U.S. doctrine, education, and training moved toward a greater understanding of COIN principles in 2005-2006, best practices regarding population security were difficult to implement. In this regard, Gentile’s point that his Battalion conducted 3,500 combat patrols from his FOB in 2006 is interesting but largely non-responsive. His guys, for the most part, did not live with the population 24/7. Period.
Now, Gentile is right that the use of Joint Security Stations (JSSs) and Combat Outposts (COPs) was not the creation of the surge. In the first year of the war, for example, variants were used by the 1st Armored Division in Baghdad, before the 2004 consolidation curtailed that practice. And a number of successful units employed them in 2005-2006—including the Marines in Al Qaim and the 3rd ACR in Tal Afar in the fall of 2005, and the Army and Marines in Ramadi in the summer and fall of 2006. But these were the exceptions not the rule, and they were not widely used in Baghdad in 2004-2006.
Gentile appears to be aware of this, because he has a back-up argument:
The second difference between earlier and current operating methods revolves around the use of combat outposts. In line with earlier operations in Tal Afar and Ramadi, American units have now fanned out and essentially planted themselves in these outposts—abandoned houses, usually—at the center of select Iraqi neighborhoods. Proponents of the surge largely credit the decline in violence to these outposts and to the troops occupying them.In other words, Gentile knows that the widespread use of JSSs and COPs to provide 24/7 population security in many of Baghdad’s worst neighborhoods did indeed represent a real shift, but he thinks this change, in and of itself, had no effect.
But there is a disconnect between claims and reality that runs through the surge narrative. The two factors overwhelmingly and demonstrably accountable for the diminished violence haven’t depended on the surge at all. The first was the 2006 decision by senior American officers to pay large sums of money to our former enemies to ally themselves with us in the fight against al-Qaeda—a decision that, according to a January 2008 report from U.S. Army headquarters in Iraq, made “significant contributions” to the lowering of violence. The practice began in 2006 in Ramadi, where, tellingly, the resulting decline in attacks predated the surge. The second factor was Muqtada al-Sadr’s decision to stand down, flee to an exile in Iran, and order his forces to suspend attacks against Americans—a decision that top U.S. officers in Iraq praise nearly every day for the ensuing reduction in violence. Absent these twin developments, Americans would still be dying in large numbers.
This brings us to his second major claim: that the surge was largely irrelevant to current security progress. Here, Gentile is both wrong and right. Gentile is wrong that the move to expand JSSs and COPs in Baghdad was unimportant. In many of the capital’s most dangerous neighborhoods, the enhanced number of U.S. troops, a greater commitment by the ISF, and their permanent presence improved local security, allowed forces to “hold” cleared areas, and tamped down sectarian killings. Gentile is right, however, that the decision by many Sunni combatants to switch sides and Sadr’s decision to have JAM stand on the sidelines were the biggest causes of the reduction in violence in 2007. But, even here, the relationship to the surge is more complex than Gentile acknowledges. The Sunni Awakening began in Anbar months before the surge as a consequence of changing Sunni calculations regarding the utility of partnerships with U.S. forces to protect them from AQI atrocities and Shia militias (not just the “bribes” Gentile emphasizes). Nevertheless, although the beginning of the Awakening had little to do with the surge, in some areas, particularly in Baghdad and Diyala, the addition of extra forces and the provision of retail-level population security did facilitate the expansion of the Awakening. Likewise, although Sadr’s decision to freeze JAM activities in August 2007 was largely a reaction to intra-Shia competition, JAM’s deteriorating image, and a desire to achieve better command and control over his militia, it was also partly driven by a desire to avoid a direct confrontation with the more numerous and more present Americans.
In sum, to a limited extent, Gentile has a point—but, as usual, he pushes it too far. The surge may not have been the strategy, but it was a piece of a new strategy that also included efforts to exploit and build upon the changing calculations of Iraqi combatants. And while surge practices may not have been completely new, they weren’t entirely old either. Instead of the extremes represented by surginistas, on the one hand, and the Gentile-style rejectionists, on the other, Dr. iRack sees the application of COIN during the surge period as a culmination and effective aggregation across the force of hard-won lessons from the 2003-2006 period rather than a sea change. This conclusion recognizes the good work done by soldiers and Marines early in the war—including Gentile's troopers—while recognizing that many mistakes were made and that the overall strategy through 2006 was deeply flawed.
In the end, the world needs Gian Gentile. It needs guys with the balls to take on the dominant “narratives,” “frames,” “myths,” etc. that pervade our discussions of Iraq and so many other issues. And it needs guys with the balls to stand up to their own institutions—in this case, the U.S. Army. But having balls does not make one right.
67 comments:
Diamondback 06
Someone needs to read a 1983 book written by the then LTC Harrington titled "Silence As A Weapon" written from his Vietnam COIN experience that was/is the core premise of the Surge JSS/COP concpet along with the US version of what one could call community policing.
I have a piece on the lack of a clear U.S. military policy in Iraq before the surge.
http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2008/06/did-us-ever-have-strategy-to-win-in.html
Gentile says that the U.S. had accepted COIN tactics when the administration announced the "clear, hold, build" strategy. Rice sent one of her advisors over to Iraq who say what was happening in places like Tal Afar and came up with the clear, hold, build line and then Rice went public with it. The thing was, overall strategy never really changed on the ground.
The major reason why COIN was never accepted, and that the U.S. didn't really have a policy was because Rumsfeld's number one priority was to get the U.S. out of Iraq. All that "we'll stand down as they stand up" rhetoric was about turning over things to the Iraqis as soon as possible so the U.S. could withdraw.
It's no accident that COIN became the strategy and the surge was announced after Rumsfeld had been given the boot.
Thanks for the exegesis. I really appreciate it, as indeed I have appreciated this blog over the past many months.
But am I the only one who's getting a bit weary of the nicknames? Is there a reason that Dr iRaq, Charlie, Londonstani, and even AM can't parade under their real names? And if there is, can't you at least say I instead of referring to yourselves in the cloying third person?
Blue skies! -- Dan Ford (a real name)
Irrespective of when the change in tactics occurred, our success in Iraq was going to take time because it takes time to:
1.Get the corps of translators in place
2. Train the Iraqi army
3. For the soldiers to acquire the cultural knowledge needed to win
DocIrack:
Well said; a solid and fair critique of my piece.
Let me address some of what I see as the salient points to your most thoughtful and articulate response.
You disagree with my point of best practices in Coin being used across the board as early as mid 2004. You then go on to cite the “usual suspects” who got it right, and then assert that even with many units getting it there were plenty who did not. Clearly, as early as mid-2004 there were units that did not “get it.” But one can make the same argument about forces under the Surge starting in early 2007 even up to the present. Why do you implicitly assume that all units now in Iraq get it simply because they are part of the Surge? I have received reports from friends on the ground who pointed out examples of combat outfits as part of the Surge (to include some senior leaders) who were not at all “masters of coin.” Many approach this problem within a teleological (or “whigish”) framework; that is to say to start with the notion of the Surge bringing it all together, then go back to recent experience through memory to compile examples of why things end up the way they do. I try to take a more historical-contextual approach to the problem, and through that approach and admittedly my own memory and experience I see things differently. Why do you think that coin practices are being applied “evenly” now across the board under the Surge? Because leaders from MNF-I say so? What proof do you have of this assertion? Are you not assuming that because through PAO talk points the inundation of terms like “protecting the people,” “the people are the prize,” and so on and so on that somehow because of this language the people are actually being protected by American combat power? Tell me how “protecting the people” actually looks on the ground for an American infantry or scout platoon in terms of tasks and purposes for patrols and operations? Have we come up with new TTPs for “protecting the people” patrols?
I do not accept your assertion that in any Coin Op the “people are the center of gravity.” This smacks of the dogmatic approach to coin that has the American Army in its grips. Pete Mansoor likes to proclaim such things as do many others? Why, in theory, does this have to be so? In history and in practice it certainly does not have to be the case? You show your own consumption of the red pill by accepting this theoretical notion which has been turned into an immutable rule and therefore dogma in the American Army.
Most folks have no real idea what “clear” means on the ground in Iraq. The Kagans have been the foremost abusers of this term. It has become a metaphor for success in Iraq; when in fact on the ground the actual “clearing” that was done as part of the Surge was from the critical conditions surrounding the surge: 1) our paying our former sunni enemies to stop attacking us then allowing Sunnis in Baghdad to secure their own districts; and 2) Sadr’r related decision to stand down attacks. Those conditions are what actually “cleared” as part of the Surge. You co-opt the language and impart to it an almost conventional, literal meaning: that when we say we have cleared we have actually and literally removed the enemy from an area. These sorts of things do not work that way on the ground in places like Baghdad, Iraq.
Ref the issue of Cops; NO I do not “know” as you say that cops have been effective in Baghdad. At least in Baghdad, the notion that the cops have been a key factor in the lowering of violence has been way overstated. Have you looked at a map and seen how many were actually emplaced? For the size of the city there have just not been that many put out there and many of the points that have been called cops are actually Joint Security Stations which had been in place as ISF fobs. Are you really ready to conclude that the dramatic and precipitous lowering of violence in late summer 2007 in Baghdad was a direct result of a few cops being emplaced for a few months with official statements that American forces were suddenly, magically, protecting the people? I don’t see how any reasonable person can claim such things in a place like Iraq. Remember it took David Galula in an area 4k wide by 4k long with a population of only 12,000 locals deep inside isolated mountain villages in north alergia with an infantry company almost 2 years to pacify his area; why do we think that that same method applied with nothing like the ratio of troops to insurgents that Galula had happened in Baghdad in a matter of weeks?
However, I do think that in Talafar in 2005 with 3ACR and in Ramadi in 06/07 with 1/1 AD cops may have played a significant role. Neil Smith's recent article in Military Review on 1/1 AD in Ramadi makes a pretty convincing case (albeit without viewing things from the Iraqi side) that there were enough cops in Ramadi to have made a significant difference; combined of course with the other efforts of the brigade, like co-opting the tribes to ally with them to fight alqueda.
The Surge, as defined by the increased number of brigades practicing a so-called new coin method, was largely irrelevant in the lowering of violence. What was relevant, though, was the decision by senior army leaders to ally with our former enemies (acknowledging the role that 1/1 AD had in the Anbar awakening) the non-alqueda sunni insurgents combined, as Colin Kahl has argued, with the idea given to at least the Sunnis based on the American November elections that the United States might in fact be leaving soon. This I submit created a psychological effect of great importance. However, that same psychological effect could have been created without the additional combat brigades. What lead to the serious reduction in Alqueda had more to do with our new sunni allies feeding us information about alqueda than the additional brigades practicing so called new coin methods. Alqueda would have been reduced either way without the additional brigades, albeit a bit more slowly.
For whatever it is worth, I am beyond the issue of credit or lack of credit to units who came before the Surge. The issue for me is the vitality of the American Army and its intellectual climate, and where the army goes in the future in support of the common defense.
Thanks for posting my piece on the great AM blog.
gian
Great, great post. I have yet to respond to Gentile personally, but since he reads this blog and trust he'll see this comment, the only thing I will add to Dr. I's criticism is this:
Gentile criticizes the COIN community for its "presumptuousness" and the claims it makes about the future of warfare while at the same time raising the specter of FM 3-24 leaving America "crippled" in future wars.
You can't complain about us making a claim about the future of war when you are, you know, making a claim about the future of war. There's nothing wrong with making such a claim, actually, because once such rival claims are made, either side then have the right to back their claim up with evidence, historical and otherwise. That's how it should be.
Holy cow, I just posted my comment without seeing Gentile's epistle. Thanks, Gian, for being part of this discussion and taking the time to post.
Agree that COIN was uneven in the early goings; but do agree/believe entirely too much credit is provided the 'surge.' Touting peace in Ramadi/Al Anbar as surge related - speaking really the augmentation of one additional battalion; belies the efforts in '05' by another far-sighted commander to bring in 'neutral' leaders and academics to commence a more collaborative spirit. They were entertained in the complex at Ramadi; discussions resulting in the opening of a cement factory - long a security risk to the encampment there - efforts to re-establish railway activity from the frontier to the provincial capital and recognition of authorities in Ramadi of tribal and political leaders.
Ironically, the effort was undercut by State reps once they found it was working....they wanted a piece of the action/credit with the Baghdad Govt - and the local leaders were not to that level of maturity or trust at that point - another cultural faux pas by a poorly prepared Pol-Mil advisor...
Inarguably, the ability to retain Marines in a secured area was problematic; in '05 the USMC had reduced the number of battalions available and was reliant on ISF standup - a slow, painful and disheartening process - commanded by the same Gen Petreus who, in effect had written Al Anbar off.
While I am glad the surge occured and has been successful in Baghdad - often get agitated that so much credit is given it in the west...
AM:
Fair point; well taken. But old friend, at least I am not making claims as narrow as the one LTG Caldwell and LTC Leonard make in an recent article in Military Review on the future nature of conflict. They argue:
"The future is not one of major battles and engagements fought by armies on battlefields devoid of population; instead, the course of conflict will be decided by forces operating among the people of the world. Here, the margin of victory will be measured in far different terms than the wars of our past. The allegiance, trust, and confidence of populations will be the final arbiters of success."
Now there is a certain proclamation of future conflict that takes your breath away in its sweep, but also in its narrowness. AM, do you not even reel at the notion that battles between armies will not be fought again in open ground? I am not talking about the American Army invading China and occupying Shanghai. But I am talking about such scenarios as a failed north korean state that brings about a south korean occupation with us in support and the need to do some fighting of remnant north korean forces perhaps, I dare say, in the open ground. A possible limited but still sustained ground sortie into Pakistan to secure nukes; and Iran, go figure. Point here is that at least "my claim" to future conflict is a bit more inclusive and realistic.
And consider another sweeping statement that should equally take your breath away. It is by John Nagl in a book review of Brian Linn's new book The Echo of Battle (which is actually an excellent and must read book). When himself thinking about future war and conflict Nagl argues that American soldiers (in the lead with other government agencies) who fight these wars will:
"...require an ability not just to dominate land operations, but to change entire societies..."
Now AM, you, I, SNLII, et al have been on the business end of American foreign policy in foreign lands; have you concluded based on your experience that American military power in the lead has the ability to "change entire societies?"
What we have building here is a conception of future war and conflict that is based on the notion of a global insurgency that applies a counter maoist, protracted people's war approach. If that is the policy we are heading for, how do we as strategists allign ways and means that the country gives us to achieve the ability to "change entire societies?"
your friend, gian
Gian,
Thanks for the thoughtful rebuttal. A few quick points:
1. You actually didn't respond to my characterization of the 2003-2006 period, which did not rely solely on references to the few standard commanders who "got it," but actually used some overacrching evidence to suggest that the population was not the focus.
2. You are wrong that the population need not be the focus. There are two schools of successful COIN--"hearts and minds" and cost-benefit/coercion--BOTH of which take the population as the center of gravity. There is no evidence from COIN history that an enemy-centered "search and destroy," attrition, network disruption, or decapitation/counter-terrorism approach is successful by itself -- and much historical evidence to the contrary.
3. You are right that some units during the surge didn't get it, including Lynch's 3rd ID (running MND-Central in the belts), although some of the BCTs under his command, namely COL Kershaw's 2/10 Mountain Div. did.
4. Moreover, in Baghdad proper, most of the unit's lashed up to 1st Cav's MND-Baghdad did get it and, if you talk to those troopers, carried out the COIN doctrine to great effect. Not relying on PAOs here.
5. My argument was not that the surged troops all by themselves produced security gains in 2007. Readers of this blog know I don't think that. Instead, my argument has always been that independent changs in the calculations of Sunni and Shia combatants (some predating the surge, some occuring in areas where few if any troops were added) + more forces in Baghdad + better tactics + better strategy/better campaign plan all interacted synergistically. Did we get lucky to some extent? Bet your ass we did. But nimble commanders exploited good fortune and took advanatage of additional resources and better doctrine to improve the situation. I would not say the surge--in the sense of more troops--was the key, but in Baghdad more forces and better overall tactics was not unimportant. Your claim that it was irrelevant is clearly false and ignores the positive synergies from the summer of 2007 onwards.
Drirack:
Well said and fair enough; although on many points we will have to continue to disagree. Which is not a bad thing at all since disagreement often produces discussion which in turn produces learning.
I will comment though on your statement that there is "NO" evidence from history that enemy centric-only approach in history has worked. Are you really seriously making that conclusion?
If so then how do you explain the Soviet Union in Hungary in 1956 or China in Tibet from about 51-60. Specifically with the Chinese in Tibet, do you really believe that they saw the population as their focus? No not even close, their focus was the rebellion and crushing it with brutal military force. Their overall approach was for most of the time an enemy-centric approach that focussed almost completely on crushing, militarily, the insurgency. The Japanese in Manchuria is another example. And farther back, go re-read CE Callwell for an enemy-centric approach to insurgencies. I am not saying that the United States adopts the techniques of coin that the Soviets or Chinese used. But in matters of history, you conclusion makes no sense. You see the notion of the people as the prize, or center of gravity, has no explanatory power; instead only metaphorical. When in war, when you peel things all the way back is war not political, and the people at some point ultimately not the objective? Who was unconditional surrender in Japan in World War II ultimately directed at? The Japanese people.
gian
Gentile: "If so then how do you explain the Soviet Union in Hungary in 1956 or China in Tibet from about 51-60."
While I agree with you on most points, I do not think these examples are all that great, since both in Hungary and in Tibet the opposition were not an insurgency, in that they had almost no weaponry and no internal logistical framework. A better example would be the crushing of the Parisian communards or Assads crushing of the MB in 79, I think. Or indeed Suhartos treatment of the communists in Indonesia.
I'm as die hard a COINdanista as they come, but I don't believe it's fair to say that COL Gentile was "mostly wrong" about the first plank.
I say this having watched the folly transpire in a very kinetic AO in 2005-06.
Here's what I wrote in an email critique about Gian's essay, which overall I think is more right than wrong:
You might want to look up the ground force mix in 2005-06 in OIF. I think you'll see that some 60 percent of the ground units were AR and ARNG. Let's just concede that these were NOT as well positioned, intellectually, to conduct COIN. To put it mildly. The training they received from depots such as Shelby ill-prepared them for a year in Anbar or Baghdad, and they responded just as appropriately.
It was my perspective in our AO (Ramadi to Fallujah) that there were several various strategies being employed at any given time, and that I, personally, ended up performing two of them. The first was a weirdly static, vehicular patrolling from FOBs that wasn't driven by population-centric COIN theory, but rather respond-to-contact idiocy, wherein the enemy had the constant initiative and local sources of information weren't used.
With the IA, however, allowed me to watch USMC-derived COPs and JPs in action, especially with my IAs, who were advised mostly by ARNG troops trained very differently from those at the neighboring FOB.
It was a crazy-quilt of different strategies, often at cross purposes, and without any seemingly unified guidance from the BCT or RCT.
What changed with MNF-I under Petraeus was the unification of these approaches, most ably through Odierno's staffwork at MNC-I, that sped up the sorts of advances we could make throughout the nation (such as the "Awakening" windfall) and returned AD Army and USMC units, retrained through TRADOC in the best practices, to replace less capable ARNG and AR troops.
Part of this comes down NOT to the narrative that's thrust out by MacFarland or Nagl, but rather because the general leading the effort and his staff were more nimble (Casey wasn't that), the quality of the active duty forces were superior to the ARNG and AR leadership that had been there previously (especially in AOs such as Anbar), and because there weren't so many conflicting "strategies" being pursued at one time.
I've always thought you were quite right to insist that the self-righteous COINdanistas weren't doing it first or alone, but it should be equally mentioned that not everyone was on the same page. Second, you're quite right to try to interject the question of consequences. At what cost have we pursued FM 3-24 tactics to the exclusion of all other skillsets?
Another point: You can't divorce al-Sadr's decision to seek a truce with US forces from the decision by "surge" those forces in Baghdad. Yes, al-Sadr was motivated by his own tactical blunders in Najaf and Karbala that killed innocent Shi'i women and children with no gain for his JAM elements in the important cities. But that doesn't mean that the influx of US troops didn't strongly persuade him to desist in his attacks, too, largely because he learned from 2004 and the crushing of his forces by US troops.
Here's the problem: Without the so-called "Surge" of troops (I hate the term because total OIF numbers didn't "surge" past what we had on hand for the 2006 elections), we couldn't have convinced the "Awakening" set that they could make the transition.
It started in December of 2006, when LTG Odierno showed up at MNF-I to become CMNC-I. The "Awakening" gains as seen in the Sufia operation were just becoming apparent beyond the Ramadi AO. In fact, it was only a few weeks before that the groundbreaking Battle of Sufia involving US and allied "Awakening" militias had been fought (late November of 2006).
Odierno made the call in February of 2007 that deals like the "Awakening" model in the Ramadi AO would become SOP for all units in all AOs. At that point, cultivating "Awakening" links to create security in Ramadi dated only to September of 2006 (some of us had been working on the same leads before that), and the Battle of Sufia was less than three months before Odierno made his crucial decisions.
The rudimentary strategy for the so-called "Surge" also was being practiced in Anbar before CMNF-I arrived in Baghdad. The COPs, JPs and other parts of the tactics of the "Surge" were being tested with IAs and IPs in Anbar, just as similar issues had been hammered out by COL McMaster in Tal Afar even earlier than that.
Without the influx of "Surge" troops to the Baghdad AO, the rapid and universal adoption of "Awakening"-type deal-making wouldn't have been possible. Had those 30,000 troops not arrived, the "Awakening" model would have remained a local concern, confined most likely to the east Anbar AO.
By June of 2007 we even could begin freeing the extra manpower to push through west Anbar and then Babil, Diyala and Salah-a-Din provinces, using "Awakening" deals as part of the "hold" and "build" after the "clear."
I think Gian and I disagree on some of these points, but that doesn't mean that he's completely offbase in making his assertions.
Gian,
You make the common mistake f confusing effective coercive COIN with enemy-centered COIN. Coercion has woked in some historical cases, but the goal was to use overwhelming force, often in a brutal fashion, to not just kill the enemy but, most importantly, to affect the incentives of the population and degrade, deter, or destroy their "inputs" to the insurgency. Effective coercion in theory and practice, like hearts & minds, is pop centered. Merely going after the enemy with disregard for the effects--positive or negative--on the population doesn't work.
After Gentile claimed that Westmoreland employed a COIN strategy in Vietnam, I conclude that he either has no idea of what COIN strategy is about or he has a loose grip on reality.
"but actually used some overacrching evidence to suggest that the population was not the focus."
Sometimes the population was the focus. Sometimes, it wasn't.
Tal Afar certainly was population-centric, with many of the best practices there used by local commanders, albeit not always systematically.
In my AO, we had USMC units at the RCT that were employing population-centric operations, but USA battalions (mostly ARNG) that weren't.
Within those ARNG units, we had some with the MTT that were using population-centric aspects of COIN in the battlespace they controlled with the IA (to be fair, they were attached through the same IA division by an overall larger USMC effort, part of the RCT that was conducting a different kind of COIN), and others that were doing what they were taught to do at Shelby and NTC in 2005, until the day they left in late 2006.
That's within the same AO! It was schizophrenic. I could literally cross the MSR and go from our IA FOB where we were running JPs and COPs in town to meet the commander of the sister ARNG unit where they were patrolling in armored vehicles on the same roads as if it was 2004 all over again and they were trying not to make a "footprint" but instead leave truck and tank parts all over the ASR due to playing bumper pool everyday with at least 20 IEDs and mines.
Gian is absolutely right to point out that some commanders, more than have received proper due, were experimenting with best COIN practices long before the spring of 2007!
I tend to point to the structure, the mix, to indicate that those who were retrained either through TRADOC or the USMC system proved overall better at understanding and exploiting population-centric warfare in 2006 than those who had been (mostly) ARNG and AR troops who were set up to fail by poor training and bad intel on their likely threats before they deployed.
"Your claim that it was irrelevant is clearly false and ignores the positive synergies from the summer of 2007 onwards."
I don't think he's saying that, Dr Irak. I think he's saying that the so-called "Surge" overstates successes gained, not that it hasn't assisted some of those gains.
Moreover, the larger point Gian isn't taking up, only nibbling at: The triumphalist narrative of the COIN practitioners is annoying. It's annoying because factually it likely is over-sold. It's annoying moreover because the triumphalist narrative could lead to dramatically wrongheaded policy conclusions, the same sorts of mythmaking about Vietnam that led to FM 3-24, and the mythmaking that will turn the dominant 3GW/4GW US Army into the less dominant 4GW/5GW force built more like the South African groundforce that successfully held Namibia in the 1980s, not the US military that tore Saddam a new one in 1990-91 and, again, in 2003.
If we accept the notion that there never will be another need to do a 1990-91 or a 2003, and only RSA-like 5GW/MOOTW deployments to the Namibias of the globe in our future, then perhaps some of the mythmaking will eventually make sense.
I believe that Van Creveld is absolutely right. But I don't believe that I'm so right, or that recent history has sufficiently vindicated my own beliefs that I don't think there should be some serious hedging.
Gian is right to point out the hubristic folly of some of the statements made by the now-empowered COIN mafia, and I say this as someone who typically agrees far more with what they write than anyone else.
To Charles Bird:
Westmoreland did employ a Coin strategy in Vietnam. Recommend you read Andrew Birtle's new book on the history of Army Coin doctrine and Dale Andrade's new essay on Westmoreland in the Journal of Small Wars and Insurgencies.
The notion that Westmoreland was trying to fight normandy all over again in Vietnam is simply chimera. Does anybody out there really think that Westmoreland should have committed his entire force (American and ARVN) to a Galula-like paccification approach? If you do, then you are free-basing Kool-Aide. What was he to do in 1965 with about 80 or so VC regular combat battalions running around in the central highlands and a large number of NVA battalions to boot? Just forget about them and go Galula hearts and minds through thousands of dispersed combat outposts? They would have been crushed. One can argue that perhaps he should have used American forces instead of the ARVN for pacification, but even that notion is problematic based on the ARVN's previous performance in hard combat against regular VC and NVA forces.
No, it is completely fair and historically honest to say that even if Abrams had gotten the call as MAC-V commander in 1965 he would have adopted the same approach. And Abrams did not, according to myth, radically change course as soon as he took over in 19698 Instead he adjusted priorities and made paccification number one; but he could start to do that in late 68 because TET had decimated the VC. And Abrams continued to do Search and Destroy, albeit with a different name under the rubrick of reconnaissance.
I am not trying to turn Westmoreland into Grant; I am not trying to turn Westmoreland into a great or even good senior general in Vietnam. But I am trying to set the historical record straight after it has been perverted by the "better war" narrative.
To dr.Irack, Ok, but my point was that the notion of "population centric" theory has no explanatory power. As I said before, when in war are the people not the center of gravity and used the historical example of Japan and World War II and the uconditional surrender of the Japanese people.
But when we give the notion of "population centric" theory such huge explanatory power in coin we in effect then accept as strategic method the notion of protracted people's war and the idea that in such war the people have to be protected which in turn dictates the method of emplacing large numbers of American combat boots on the ground.
If you dont believe me just read in an earlier posting the recent comments by LTG Caldwell and John Nagl about the nature of future war and conflict.
SNLII:
I agree with the distinction you make between Generals Casey and Petraeus.
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Peace all.
Abu Muqawama's COIN blog and US COIN is based on failed and flawed premises and logic.
Iraqi ILLEGAL, ILLEGITIMATE and IMMORAL occupation is set to fail precisely because it is ILLEGAL, ILLEGITIMATE and IMMORAL.
No matter how many iraqi resistance fighters are killed by US army and mercenaries and no matter how much it tries to subdue iraqis in accepting arrangements that meets US wants: it will all fail like previous colonial expedition in Mesopotamia.
Yankees and Brits should have learned from british experience but men with no wisdom repeat the same mistakes as their predecessors.
US God fearing patriotic GIs gone to kill and die for draft-dodging, undemocratic, selfish, racist, oligarchy.
May God forgive you.
Great debate,
Without going into too much detail I would place myself in the camp that believes Iraq turned around because a combination of factors: the surge, the Sadr cease-fire, and the Sunni turnaround. I don't think they would've been successful without one other.
For Sadr, when the surge was announced he fled to Iran around February I believe. The Mahdi Army was already becoming a target of U.S. forces and during the surge they came under more and more military pressure. At the same time his group was fracturing and he got a black eye after the fight with the SIIC. Together I think those things led to his cease-fire. As an offshoot he's probably closer to Iran now because of the U.S. pressure.
The Sunnis were already turning against Al Qaeda in Anbar before the surge. However I don't think the Awakenings/CLCs/SOIs would've spread to places like Baghdad, Salahaddin, Diyala, etc. without the surge troops. They needed a U.S. presence to turn to for protection against Al Qaeda and the Shiites, plus the constant U.S. monitoring of them otherwise they'd probably just sit around more.
Finally I think the surge really had an affect on Baghdad. When all the troops were deployed I think it helped stop the sectarian cleansing and fighting that was going on, although much of it was already finishing by the first half of 2007.
"I am not trying to turn Westmoreland into Grant; I am not trying to turn Westmoreland into a great or even good senior general in Vietnam. But I am trying to set the historical record straight after it has been perverted by the "better war" narrative."
God Bless You. You are performing a vital service to maintaining the institutional and intellectual vigor within our Army. I have learned much from your posts here.
I fear in the near term an erosion of the institutional Army that nourished thinking, writing and debate throughout the 20th century. When IRR and Retiree Recalls are now being heavily solicited to instruct at CGSC/ILE, to staff the ARCIC at the COL and LTC level, to teach at Fire/Maneuver OBC/BOLC's, and staff the many BQ/KD field grade positions at Benning in the ITB, I worry we may be past the point of easy return.
Motown--
That is very well put, both on the complexity of Baghdad and Diyala in particular and the complexity of modern conflict in general. It will be some time before we understand the full story of what happened in late 2006 through early 2008 (though I think we can see the general contours). What we DO know is that simple explanations--whether "GEN Petraeus finally arrived" or "We started paying off the Sunni"--are utterly insufficient.
I recently wrote an essay Counterpunch published. Judging from the amount of emails I received, a lot of people took the time to read it. This surprised me, both because I have never written anything of consequence before, and because the essay articulated the deceitful policy of our government in both Vietnam and Iraq. Despair, not disloyalty, drove me to write and point out parallels between the two worst foreign policy mistakes of my lifetime. Particularly rewarding was the number of responses I received from vets of every rank and every branch of the service, some active and some disabled, applauding the essay. Some offered encouragement in moving prose. When I wrote the piece, I had no idea how emotionally tied I was to it; yet, my voice cracked and my hands trembled more than once while reading the heartrending responses of this unique fraternity, this special band of brothers: veterans.
An issue this sensitive, however, insures dissent and when a veteran assumes an antiwar stance the criticism is fairly predictable: socialist, communist, faggot, and traitor are all epithets that found their way to my computer screen. The vitriol was expected and if the emails were peculiar it was only in the similarity of their endings; all of them were signed “Thanks for serving.” The veterans agreed with my position, yet all the dissenters curiously chose the exact same phrase to end their emails. Then it dawned on me. Writing “thanks for serving” implies the writer hadn’t served.
Veterans have no monopoly on sensitivity, but having been in uniform they are painfully aware that every casualty has a face, a life, a story. People, unlike numbers, can’t be adjusted, erased, or corrected; they are bones and blood, organs and limbs. Bones shatter, blood spills, organs are exposed and limbs come off. It is easy for a television commentator to say a car bomb exploded and a soldier was lost -- the words roll effortlessly from his well paid lips, but a 19 year old boy compressing a head to prevent a brain from sliding into the sandy street might not describe a soldier’s death so casually. The uninitiated have no conception what explosives do to the human body, or the toll such horrific sights take on the human psyche. Corporations control the media and are not moved by unknown names tagging faceless victims, but other soldiers who survived combat see victims not as strangers, but as unlucky reflections of themselves. By vicariously reliving their own nightmares they share in the agony of the fallen: “There but for the grace of God.”
Anyone exposed to the sickening stink of roasted flesh never forgets it. The stink affects all your senses simultaneously: it makes your eyes water, it seeps under your nostrils, it permeates your nasal cavity and it overwhelms your brain. It joins with the nausea from your stomach and then the conjunction lodges like a rotten oyster in your throat. Whiskey won’t chase it. Mouthwash can’t evict it. For this is not a just a smell that lingers; this stench comes with its belongings and takes up residence. Only time can eradicate it. Of course, by then it is too late; by then, this abomination has attached itself to the subconscious and is forever sealed in your memory.
A number of “experts” in the corporate media who remind the public of our responsibility to Iraq and the consequences of a premature withdrawal make valid points; however, the more strident advocates prefix their remarks of support for the troops by berating critics of the war as soft on terror, liberals or pacifists. It is both disingenuous and fatuous to believe every soldier in Iraq is a right wing Republican or that every voice of dissent belongs to a pacifist or defeatist. Are civilians aware of why these men are dying? They are not dying to liberate Iraq, nor are they dying for love of country. They are not even dying for the uniform our government will bury them in. A man doesn’t throw himself upon a live grenade because he wants Iraq free of Saddam Hussein, or for a red, white and blue flag, or love for Exxon Mobil; he does it to shield the men fighting next to him, to protect his brothers.
Most voices insisting our forces continue in this wasteful enterprise unsurprisingly belong to men who decided not to play on the field with the team they champion. No, many of the voices belong to men all too content watching others sacrifice for the jingoism they rally around. They support the war through heavy lenses. They seem to prefer the safety of more profitable “no spin zones” to combat zones. My opinion is neither solicited nor appreciated like the “experts” who didn’t serve, but it seems as usual the poor and the middle class will supply the corpses and the taxes while the spectators (speculators?) continue to stand on the sidelines and profit from the sacrifices of the combatants.
Webster defines an expert as a person with special knowledge or one who performs skillfully. Logic would dictate that to be an expert about war one should have been in combat or at the very least been in the armed forces; yet, the veterans, the men who did serve, are urged to ignore their experiences by the people who have none. The following armchair gladiators, none of whom ever burdened the defense budget with requests for dog tags, were all vociferous advocates for the decision to invade sovereign Iraq: Dick Cheney, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Karl Rove, Dennis Hastert, Tom DeLay, John Ashcroft, Joe Lieberman, and Newt Gingrich. This decision was applauded by a host of corporate shills that impersonate representatives of the common man for a living, including: Rush Limbaugh, Tucker Carlson, Joe Scarborough, Roger Ailes and the laughably self-anointed “warrior” Bill O’ Reilly. None are veterans.
Six years now in Iraq, long past the six weeks or six months the experts said it would take. Still there are no links to Al Qaeda, no links to 9/11, no weapons of mass destruction. There are over 4,000 Americans dead, over 30,000 Americans maimed, over 2 million Iraqi refugees, and unknown numbers of civilian casualties, all the results of a mission disgracefully labeled “shock and awe.” Now the administration tells us it’s about democracy. Jefferson, who knew a bit about democracy, tells us the three major enemies of democracy are: “political instability, violence and intolerance.” Insiders like Bush’s first Secretary of the Treasury Paul O’Neill said in his book, “The Price of Loyalty,” that sitting in a cabinet meeting of this administration was similar to sitting with “a blind man in a room full of deaf people.” O’Neill tells us days into his presidency, well before 9/11, Bush was searching for a reason to invade Iraq, “It was all about finding a way to do it” (Suskind, 86). Other insiders Richard Clark, George Tenet, and Scott McClellan have written books emphasizing the indifference, insincerity, and incompetence of these men we allow to continue masquerading as leaders; yet a gutless congress paid for by big business refuses to even consider impeachment.
With me is the indelible memory of a 19 year old boy staring vacuously at a procession of coffins being unloaded from an endless line of C-130 cargo planes at Charleston AFB, coffins containing thousands of boys slaughtered in Southeast Asia. This unemotional young soldier was me. Thirty years later, recalling my indifference, I cried. The following was written by the man the public held largely responsible for that parade of wasted promise, a man many would consider an authority on war, an expert. He was haunted by the profound consequences of his decisions and in retrospect gave the Vietnam War solemn, somber, and regrettable thought. He was neither liberal, nor pacifistic, and was never accused of being soft on anything. If you have read the memoir of Robert McNamara already, his main points are worth your reconsideration. If you haven’t, his self assessment of his administration’s mistakes is summarized below. You decide if they are applicable to Iraq. The tragedy of Vietnam is once again repeated in the desert of the Middle East; let us pray our country -- unlike me -- doesn’t take 30 years to realize it and cry.
Lessons Learned from Vietnam. (McNamara, 321-23)
1. We exaggerated the dangers to the U.S. of . . . [our adversaries’] . . . actions.
2. We totally misjudged the political forces within the country by seeing in them a thirst for and a determination to fight for freedom and democracy.
3. We underestimated the power of nationalism to motivate a people to fight and die for their own beliefs and values.
4. Our misjudgments . . . reflected our profound ignorance of the history, culture and politics of the people in the area.
5. We failed to recognize the limitations of modern, high technology military equipment, forces and doctrine in confronting unconventional, highly motivated people’s movements.
6. We failed to draw Congress and the American people into a full and frank debate and discussion of the pros and cons of a large scale U. S. military involvement . . . before we initiated the action.
7. A nation’s deepest strength lies not in its military prowess but rather in the unity of its people. We failed to maintain that.
8. We do not have the God given right to shape every nation in our own image or as we choose.
9. We did not hold to the principle that U.S. military action other than threats to our own security should be carried out only in conjunction with multinational forces supported fully (and not merely cosmetically) by the international community.
10. We failed to recognize that in international affairs, as in other aspects of life, there may be problems for which there are no immediate solutions…at times we may have to live with an imperfect, and untidy world.
11. The executive branch…failed to analyze and debate our actions, . . . our objectives, and the risks and costs of alternative ways of dealing with them.
This written by the youngest Secretary of Defense in our nation’s history; his prophetic warnings go unheeded while we sheepishly allow the less informed to lead our children to slaughter. There are as of this day 4,082 American dead, and 30,329 wounded that our government “officially” acknowledges (according to the website antiwar.com, this figure is much higher -- between 23,000 and 100,000 wounded). Perhaps the list of “expert” policy makers and broadcasters mentioned above whom never felt the need to wear a uniform can answer a question for a dilettante like me: how many more of my brothers will be washed down the sewers of Iraq before this atrocity is permitted to end?
Footnote: Appallingly, the death count is never accurate because lives are affected that will not show up in the statistics. Case in point: while visiting a Veterans Hospital this Memorial Day, I was admitted to the room of a young man who has been back from the desert of Iraq for three years. He tried unsuccessfully to blow his brains out, and is now a virtual vegetable. His 86 year old mother takes a three hour bus ride every other day to his bedside in the hope her boy might recognize her. As of yet, her prayers have not been answered, but she has never missed a visit.
Author’s Note: I was reluctant to relegate this tragic story to a footnote, but then realized of course that all of the dead will end up here -- in footnotes. It is fitting that this boy’s story should be buried among his brothers’.
William P. O’Connor enlisted in the Air Force on August 1, 1966. He served in the Vietnam War from August 1969 to August 1970 in Nakhon Phanom in Northern Thailand. William was born in County Cork, Ireland in 1948. He is a former pub owner and retired NYC fire fighter. He may be contacted at williampoconnor@hotmail.co.
Sources
McNamara, Robert S. In Retrospect. New York: Random House, 1995.
Suskind, Ron. The Price of Loyalty. New York: Simon & Schuster, 2004.
http://www.counterpunch.org/oconnor06262008.html
I'm not sure how those last few posts ended up here, but I suppose 'Thanks for Sharing' would be appropriate.
As to the OP, and believe me I can't believe I'm saying this, Dr. iRack is Da Man!
One can learn more reading one post on this blog then a years worth of newspapers.
My only hope, and it is a real one, is that SNLII, Gian, dr. iRack, AM and all the rest of you have some position in the military which will allow you to apply what you've learned from this operation, so that the next time we (my son....Marine Corps bound, August 18th, Parris Island...) are better prepared.
Soldiers and civilians will die in the next conflict, that's a given. Use what you've learned to make that number as small as possible.
Oh, and God bless you all.
Oh, and God bless you all.
Well, I'm just going to say, "Thank God we have a Gian Gentile; otherwise, we'd have to invent him." It's guys like Gentile who just might keep the rest of you from running the U.S. Army off the cliff. Leave it to you COIN boys, and we could cut the Army to about 200K, stop modernization, keep the troops overseas forever and focus on building the new Raj. As a taxpayer, I might find some relief, but as a retired Army officer, I'd have a few misgivings.
I'm not going to go into the pitfalls associated with your new-found love of what you think is COIN—Gentile is much better at it than I could ever be—but I will say, you ain't doing it in Iraq. What you're doing is choosing sides in somebody else's civil war. Conventional warfare overthrew the previous regime and then left the field wide open for contenders. But it really didn't, did it? You've stacked the deck every step of the way. You chose the government and now you're working to keep it in power. In other words, freedom and self-determination for the Iraqis is not part of your equation.
I've had my time supporting an illegimate and corrupt government. In my first tour in Vietnam, I thought we were doing God's work against the heathens. By the end of my second tour, I understood all too well why so many Vietnamese didn't like that government.
As an aside, although Gian Gentile and I have gone around before about Westmoreland, whom I always despised, I will grant that Westmoreland actually did employ COIN techniques. His problem was that he was backing the wrong horse.
This is the essential dilemma all soldiers face when they get into this so-called COIN business. Am I supporting the right people? Or am I just being a button man? ISTM that if a soldier and his Army buy fully into this whole COIN business, they run the risk of losing sight of their Title 10 responsibilities, not to mention estranging themselves from those they are sworn to protect and defend: the American people. I won't even get into the moral and ethical questions, but they lurk.
I don't think the American people hired their Army to have it engaged in incessant wars overseas, no matter how much fun it might be for the soldiers and the politicians who send them wherever. Do you guys really want to be a foreign legion?
Publius: It comes down to the basic question of legitimacy, doesnt it? As snli points out, the Maliki administration is hopelessly corrupt, and from what I hear so is the Karzai admin too. As long as "our lads" include such folks as Dostum in Afghan, or the Badr-boys with their drills in Baghdad, legitimacy among the people is going to be mighty hard to come by. The whole strongman-idea of governement seems to me to be the basic fallacy of the COIN-centric approach to "war among the people". One would have thought that the lessons from South and middle america would have stuck, but sometimes I feel like Im back in the 80s, where the concepts of "for the people by the people" were shunted aside by the moneymakers of all participating parts tending to their interests with the same finesse as a shark in a pool filled with meat. The basic premise of COIN is that the governemnt championed by the COIN-forces has a greater, or at least equal, legitimacy to that of the insurgency. By consequently backing bad people, that premise is compromised, and so the whole project. I see (southern) Iraq being built up to be another Iran, unfortunately.
"Leave it to you COIN boys, and we could cut the Army to about 200K, stop modernization, keep the troops overseas forever and focus on building the new Raj."
I don't want to speak for Gian here, Publius, but I would suggest that if the order from Congress and the President is legal, and the threat to the US existential or deemed tantamount to such by these policymakers, that we are dutybound to destroy the Army.
The very point of the Army is that it can be sacrificed to protect the Constitutional authority of those elected to convene it. LTG Sanchez doesn't believe this, but I find his disbelief in this salient American given to be creepily close to fascism or some goofy militarism.
What Gian and I both have advocated, however, is perhaps a stronger consideration of the longterm harm to the ground forces of the US in any war of choice. If certain forms of warfare are considered, such as intensive counter-insurgency warfare in a nation as vast as Iraq while continuing another similar mission across Asia in Afghanistan, the AVF (or the ground component of the AVF) might be sacrificed for many years.
Is this taken into consideration by those instituting the new oplan? At what point does it become sagacious to disband it?
Also, I would recommend fully that you read the histories he has highlighted concerning Vietnam. Gian, frankly, changed my (rather opinionated) mind about the strategic dilemmas facing Westmoreland and Abrams.
My own concerns about FM 3-24 (which I also would say were NOT necessarily incorporated into the "Surge" tactics by CMNF-I Petraeus) were that it borrowed too freely from America's "lessons learned" in Vietnam and that its assumptions about the nature of insurgencies was so Maoist as to be ahistorical.
I stand by that original perspective, and I wasn't alone in voicing it.
Gian carries it further by noting that the broader myth -- had certain sorts of COIN efforts been undertaken earlier in Vietnam, everything would've been just dandy -- is equally untrue. Had the US and our SEATO allies enterprised to do in Vietnam what, say, we're doing now in Iraq, the North Vietnamese would've tossed us into the ocean.
The Counterpunch examples provided above also do not sway me -- they are so abstract as to be almost Kantian, and therefore aren't illustrative of the realistic considerations for US commanders today when it comes to Iraq.
As I've been at some pains to express, Iraq culturally, geographically, strategically and theologically is such a different sort of war that it bears very little in comparison to that of Vietnam in the 1960s and early 1970s.
I also would make some distinctions: FM 3-24 is in many ways a koan-like primer, mostly about how to "think about" counter-insurgency warfare. It's not a Jomini-like how-to manual, or at least it wasn't structured to be so even if some practitioners have been ready to make it so.
It is, therefore, very much unlike most of the many FMs that have ever been written for US military applications.
While I like much of this koan-like think-making of FM 3-24, I share certain reservations (again, too Maoist, not really reflective of the real complexity of Iraq) about it doctrinally. I worry even more that it could become a template for FM 3-0, which is a point Gian often brings up.
While I suspect that COIN is the wave of the future, I'm not so arrogant as to believe that I'm right in this suspicion, and would caution that history often is fickle when it comes to buttressing the original predictions of mere mortals like me.
Just because I predicted that OIF would pretty much end up where it ended up doesn't mean that the next war forced on the US military will be "fixed" by "rightly" applying FM 3-24 as if it was FM 3-0.
The very (and growing) success of our COIN efforts might suggest that a sage enemy would change certain aspects of our new doctrines to mitigate them, or, indeed, capitalize on a weakening of US traditional warfighting abilities (or structural changes in our battlemaking capabilities) to take us on in a very different manner.
Indeed, it might be a "back to the future" sort of warfare.
I know that budgets aren't inexhaustable, that taxpayers deserve a cogent military planning and budgetary cycle based on likely threats and requirements for achieving foreign policy goals. But at the same time, how much should we be placing in the COIN basket? At what expense to other capabilities?
These are questions that Gentile is best at asking, not me.
"And it needs guys with the balls to stand up to their own institutions—in this case, the U.S. Army. But having balls does not make one right."
Testicular fortitude indeed, but I'm also wondering if whatever version of COIN we're debating is the dominant myth.
I still would suggest that the vast majority of the US Army and USMC hold much more traditional views about warfighting, more akin to CSA GEN Casey or CJCS GEN Powell (Ret) than LTC Nagl (soon to be Ret).
I would wager that for every Soldier or Marine who has read Van Creveld, one would find 100 who are devotees of Clausewitz (or, really, a Jomini-like Clausewitz).
I also would wager that on the battlefield in Iraq, Gian Gentile was a far better COIN practitioner than others would imagine, and that he speaks with some experience about the nature of warfare there. He's not "anti-COIN" as he's often caricatured.
Appreciate fnord, Publius, and SNLII's comments.
SNLII is correct, I am not anti-Coin, and I think my Cav Squadron in west-Baghdad in 2006 got a passing grade at it, which in context is not bad at all.
What I am "anti" is anti-inside-the-box thinking which I believe actually characterizes the Coin Crowd today in the American Army. I just finished reading Brian Linn's excellent new book "The Echo of Battle." It is essentially an epic, intellectual history of the US Army. In the book Linn describes three general categories of thinking by Army officers that has actually constrained the army over time and kept it in narrowly defined "boxes." The three categories he uses are: Managers, Guardians, and Heros. All three at various times worked to constrain army thinking, especially in the post World War II world toward irregular warfare.
But whereas folks like John Nagl see themselves as the ones who are finally breaking out of this narrow-minded tradition (and to be fair, Linn sees them that way too), I see them as part of the problem and would add the Coin Crowd to Linn's three. I say this based on the Coin Crowd's narrow conception of the past, their narrow drawing of lessons learned from it, their triumphant view of the current situation in Iraq, and more dangerously, their narrow view of future conflict which I think if we are not careful would potentially put us in strategic peril by constructing a constabulary, nation building army. In practice that army would be heavily weighted toward light infantry and irregular warfare skills.
If you don’t think our Army is in danger of becoming that kind of Army now, then recommend you read Dennis Steele’s new article in Army Magazine thorough (but also deeply disturbing) article on current training at the National Training Center. It is in effect, only COIN. These are the sorts of things that worry me.
gian
I hate that Coin Crowd. I hate their "narrow conception of the past, their narrow drawing of lessons learned from it, their triumphant view of the current situation in Iraq, and more dangerously, their narrow view of future conflict which...if we are not careful would potentially put us in strategic peril by constructing a constabulary, nation building army." If I ever meet those guys, I'm going to beat them up.
I personally believe that the demise of the Soviet Union, the proliferation of nuclear weapons and precision guided conventional weapons, and the globalization of information have made conventional state-on-state war somewhat less likely in the 21st century, and irregular warfare a rather better choice for our adversaries. In support of this contention, I can point to every war since the end of the Cold War, including the current war in Iraq (going better than it was, but with a future that is uncertain at best) and the one in Afghanistan (not going better, and in need of some new thinking and additional resources).
Because of this threat environment, I advocate making judicious changes to our current force structure to improve our chances of winning the wars we're currently fighting, including institutionalizing rather than ad-hoc'ing the advisory teams that enable and empower the host nation security forces that are our exit strategy in both wars. I also suggest thinking hard about fencing some conventional ground forces as a hedge against an uncertain future; until the demand for conventional forces draws down in Iraq and Afghanistan, that conventional ground force hedge may have to come from the National Guard.
Winning the Long War, of which the campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan are only a part, will require even greater efforts to change our national security infrastructure, including most importantly recreating the US Information Agency to wage the global battle of ideas. It is "soldiers" like these of the other institutions of the US government who will largely determine how quickly we eradicate the evil ideas that have afflicted too much of the world; victory in the Long War requires real changes in those societies that an Army can't impose--but that a whole-of-government approach can, and must, accomplish to help remove the virus of a global insurgency to keep America safe.
We have come a long way, as an Army and as a nation, at fighting counterinsurgency campaigns--but the fact that so far this month we have already exceeded the highest monthly total of casualties in the seven-year war in Afghanistan suggests that we still have more work to do. Talking about how to win that war may be more useful than building straw men and setting them on fire.
"until the demand for conventional forces draws down in Iraq and Afghanistan, that conventional ground force hedge may have to come from the National Guard."
Well, I'll certainly sleep better at night knowing that.
On Gian's comments about COIN in Vietnam are consistent with - my I-CORPS AnHua Basin experience in 1969-70, where my unit was operating in a populated setting where local VC were active, but at any time large, main-force NVA units could (and did)appear. So one day is loosing troops to bobby traps and the next day one is in multi-battalion ops confronting main-force NVA. This was not a great setting for such COIN activities as the CAP units, so well described by Bing West in The Village, could operate, but it was also clear that operating area settings for other Danang-area 1st MAR DIV regiments were quite different and where COIN tactics were more practical to apply - and hopefully were playing out.
By the way, my COIN interest goes back to a pre-Vietnam freshman seminar on revolution in the Asian context (case study of Vietnam) where we read many of the "classics" on the AM reading list, met with Douglas Pike before his VC work was published, etc. While we pretty much projected the outcome of the coming war (we projected US withdrawal one election too early), COIN was a small world and a resource like AM might have made a big difference in how things played out in RVN.
Keep up the great work!
Gian –
My 1969-70 I CORPS AnHua Basin experience is consistent with your comments about Westmoreland and COIN. My unit operated in a populated setting with extensive VC activity but also where main-force NVA units could (and did) appear at any time. One day we would be losing troops to VC bobby-traps and the next day we would be in multi-battalion operations against NVA units. This was not a setting conducive to such productive COIN operations as the CAPs units so well described in Bing West’s “The Village” – which could well have been occurring in some of the other 1st MARDIV regimental operating areas closer to Danang.
"until the demand for conventional forces draws down in Iraq and Afghanistan, that conventional ground force hedge may have to come from the National Guard."
When one considers that the Army National Guard is essentially "shot" as a combat arms force above the company/troop level, this hedge may not be a prudent one. Long before OIF and my Active duty service, my prescient ARNG 1SG told me the Guard was a "one trick pony". You can use it once for "the big one" of your choosing, but after that it's a ghost of what it was before. For my old company that served in OIF III, this is certainly the case.
If it were 2003, I may be more inclined to agree with you, but seeing the personnel "sausage making" that happened to kick NY's 27th BDE out the door to Afghanistan recently, I would implore you to revaluate. These "second deployments" for ARNG units have been painful ... scores of CSS soldiers from multiple units being cross-levelled to round out cavalry troops and artillery batteries with gaping personnel holes at the NCO and officer level.
Then there's the leadership issue. While I don't have the ARNG numbers handy, the USAR is currently 52% fill on authorized CPTs and 58% fill on SFCs. I'm inclined to believe the Guard would be a bit higher (given their State OCS programs), but definitely below 75% strength on both of these critical ranks - where the "rubber meets the road" on the strategies you advocate.
Then there's the pesky issue of developing/grooming the Army's next generation of leaders confident, trained and capable of leading forces in high-intensity, kinetic conflicts. If we are "hedging" these capabilities today with essentially spent ARNG forces, what are we doing to prepare today's RA CPTs to serve as tomorrow's RA LTCs and COLs to perform these functions themselves or integrate the capabilities of the ARNG?
No matter how you slice it, we are hurting for officer bodies given the ease of earning an RA commision of late (e.g. 100% selection rate for civilian OCS applicants for 38 months) and the quality issues brought on by an insanely high promotion rate (98% to MAJ anyone?). The RA is at 54% strength on BQ/KD CPTs and about 82% in the aggregate on RA MAJs ... trouble is brewing.
I fear that there is a troubling narrative emerging among field grade officers ( roughly YGs '88-94) of a certain generation concerning the core/branch-specific training, reinforcment and experience needed to create a well-rounded combat-arms battalion commander. Take YG 2003 for example - these officers have only known the current OPTEMPO/PERSTEMPO and will take the guidon over the next 18 months. Outside of OBC, many of these officers have had precious little reinforcment, and continuing education on their core branch functions (e.g. Field Artillery). These officers served as PLs in OIF/OEF, will command there and will assume battalion command someday in a world we can't predict without practicing the high intensity aspects of their craft/profession at the platoon or company level.
I am troubled that these concerns are a "minority opinion" among the Army's current intelligentsia.
Dear Mr. Nagl,
Are you quite certain of your sanity? "The proliferation of nuclear weapons and precision guided conventional weapons" has made interstate war less likely?
May I suggest that you read a logic textbook as a matter of the highest priority,
I hate the knuckle draggers, those guys who are convinced that the Soviet Union (and maybe even the South) will rise again and who want to fight them with the 1986 Army in the Fulda Gap with visions of the Battle of Kursk and use terms like state-on-state war; I hate the way they want to reincarnate the late Harry Summers into Gian P Gentile and then start ditching right now the hard won lessons from Iraq and Afghanistan just like old Harry got us to ditch the lessons from Vietnam; I hate the way they just over-sensationalize the atrophied conventional capabilities of the American Army; I hate the way they don’t get Coin, didn’t get Coin, and want to fight Normandy all over again in Baghdad and Kabul. I don’t want to ever see or meet these knuckle draggers because if I do they will certainly, because of their innate propensity to kill from their indoctrination by the conventional-minded army, beat me up too.
I have never said that the United States faces a certain future of state-on-state warfare. The future conflict scenarios that I have conceived of focus on higher-end fighting with enemies that might be associated with a state but not all state-on-state warfare like World War II. To repeat, here are some of the higher-end conflict scenarios I have written about: A better way to think about North Korea is of a failed north Korean state, with a difficult occupation of the north by South Korea with us in support possibly moving quickly to secure nuke facilities and doing some "conventional fighting" along the way with North Korean army remnants. With regard to Iran, a possible scenario could be Iranian ground forces fighting us in very decentralized small units somewhat like Hiz fought the IDF in Lebanon. I think the notion that the Iranians would fight like traditional insurgents because they know that the American Army only does conventional war well and would take an asymmetrical approach and resist our advance into their country like Iraqi insurgents is far-fetched. In fact one can imagine the Iranians doing the opposite, if they know how overstretched the American Army is in Iraq and Astan and that it could not commit multiple divisions to an occupation of their country, the strategic logic for them, it seems to me, points to an approach that would be much more sharp, violent, with the intent of seriously wounding American combat brigades advancing into their country; hence my comparison to Hiz against IDF in Lebanon in summer 2006. See, this is the kind of higher-end conflict I am talking about. If one wants to call it “conventional” so be it; but I am not at all talking about traditional “state-on-state” warfare along the lines of World War II. So please stop setting me up in that sort of “straw-man” configuration.
Nagl’s conception of future conflict where we will face adversaries primarily using irregular warfare sounds a lot like the critique that you along with many others often make of the "conventional minded" army; that we only want to fight the war that we would like.
Using the term “judicious changes to our current force structure” is salve for an Army that is severely stretched, tired, and completely focused on Counterinsurgency. There is much proof out there; most recent is an article by Dennis Steele on current training trends for BCTs at the NTC. At NTC they are only—only—doing coin related training in preparation for Iraq and Astan. I got it that we have to do our utmost to fight and win the war we are in; but I do feel it incumbent upon us as senior army officers to realistically acknowledge the strategic effects of that war on our Army and not sugar coat that reality.
More on Nagl’s term “judicious changes.” On paper that sounds really good. But then I juxtapose the notion of “judicious changes” to a statement Nagl made in a review of Brian Linn’s new book “The Echo of War” where he conceives of future wars and conflict being fought among the peoples of the world where our soldiers
“who will win these wars require an ability not just to dominate land operations, but to change entire societies…”
I wonder what kind of “judicious changes” to our Army does Nagl see making in order to use American military power to “change entire societies?” How as strategists do we realistically align means (that being of our army) to accomplish the end of changing entire societies? Like Nagl, SNLII, AM, et al I have seen the business end of American foreign policy on the ground in Iraq. I am much less sanguine that it can change entire societies (even when supported by other elements of national power) through the barrel of a gun.
John Nagl’s previous post reads like a policy primer for the establishment of American imperial institutions. Why does he assume that this new approach is the true American way of war that has been avoided for so long by an Army that doesn’t get it?
His assumption of the efficacy of American military power to shape events and to be in control of them is breathtaking. I do not accept the idea that the increase in violence over the past few months in Afghanistan is a direct result of the American Army still not getting Coin and irregular warfare. The logical conclusion to that assumption is very troubling.
My reading of Nagl’s post and other published writings suggests that there seems to be no limits to what American military power (a military power that has militarized other elements of national power) can accomplish. I, however, look to history and know that the true lesson from the Vietnam War shows that there actually are limits to what the United States can accomplish in the world. The trick for us as military strategists is to align means to realistic policy ends; ends given to us by our civilian masters and not created by ourselves.
Earlier on, LTC GG raised the issue of; "notion of a global insurgency that applies a counter Maoist, protracted people's war approach". Well heeded warning.
It is a global insurgency, but he's right that it's a lot different in motives and capabilities than the Maoist insurgencies/counter insurgencies that are largely used as case studies, and influence the model we are using. It's a question that needs more study by people with more time and resources than myself. Briefly, if Mao or Ho believed in God, they thought that meant them. Not to mention these guys now are flush with cash.
Publius is right; we'd have to invent Gian Gentile if we didn't have him. Just like earlier we needed to invent HR McMasters, Paul Yingling, and John Nagl.
Division of labor (if we must): you might find the AR/ARNG might make the better Constabulary Force with the RA as the conventional force than the other way around (someone suggested the RA invest in COIN, the Reserves/ARNG on going back to REFORGER, or whatever).
For one thing, a significant percentage of the ARNG are in fact Constables in real life. And many of the rest of us bring to the table civilian job skills and experience (like construction) that would be quite useful in the SSO phase.
If the Army is indeed going to all COIN, then that's a mistake.
Maybe GG and the rest concerned with the atrophy of conventional skills could sell the modification of training like this: "Hybrid War" with the range of Operations being taught. You want supporting evidence? Well, there is Hezbollah vs IDF 1983-2006. But if you'd like something a little closer to home; what did we just go through, from 1991 to now? Or 2003 to now, if you like. It started out as Conventional and morphed into an insurgency with a variety of players with mixed motives, semi-morphed into a civil war (with lots of outside help and players) and now just might be subsiding into real SSO.
Or maybe it's about to explode into US vs Iran, or the Pashtu, or whatever. In short, make the curriculum full spectrum operations. Call it knuckle draggers evolving into COIN opposing thumb types.*
Now Gentlemen, if you want more money and time..Here’s a suggestion from the Corporate World- you have too many VPs, and too much departmental overhead. And every one of the worthies sucks up soldiers and Officers as staff, not to mention God knows how much money. And they suck up TIME.
We all know this, so I don't wish to debate it. You certainly won't convince me.
SNLII bought up a thread awhile ago that only 11% of the force has either CIB's or CAB's. In other words - while that's not conclusive, we may have an Army with only 10% veterans, despite continuous combat. If you want my educated guess, see above paragraph.
RIF, Pension, or push out to where they are needed, and reduce your overhead. Or prepare to be thwarted in all respects.
*Really Gentlemen, at your age. And they call me a "drunken jock".
Gian, I think you're moving out of your lane. If the civilian leadership gives the US military the order to do even the most odious colonialist project, so long as it is a legal order, constitutionally sound, it must be obeyed.
To lay into LTC Nagl because his written works often delve into the best practices tactically to achieve ends politically that concern you isn't good cricket. It's not his call what the structure of the force should look like, only that he presuppose what future wars might resemble, and to fit US military tactics to address them.
If that sounds Machiavellian, well I don't know what we should do about SAC -- the endpoint of that enterprise seems just as morally bankrupt as anything imaginable but I'm sure you wouldn't advocate disbanding it.
As the kids say, don't hate the player, hate the game.
I'm also a bit bemused by this notion that the only forms of combat the US is likely to face are asymmetrical insurgencies, wars among the people. As I recall, in 1990-91, we faced the fourth largest land army in the world over quite limited goals that were achieved solely through convential means.
In 2003, I recall being the Forward as we crossed the LOD fighting what appeared to us to be a quite conventional fray, one that a good many Iraqi professional soldiers stood up to challenge, albeit certainly not all of them.
I should hope that the US won't ever attempt so muddled (strategically) a campaign as the 2006 punitive expedition launched by the IAF and IDF, Gian. It's a bad example, in my opinion, because the Israelis never seriously entertained any goals that could've been achieved through a conventional oplan, short of occupying southern Lebanon which they could've done but chose not to because it wouldn't have accomplished, well, their murky foreign policy goals.
If anything, what many take away from that campaign was the lack of utility of air power to achieve not only the strategic goal (which seems to have been to deter future Hizbollah aggression), but even much of the tactical baggage.
And these Kantian lessons we all should learn from Vietnam... Stop it! Everyone!
Yes, Gian, without instituting total war (which verily involves the people in the enemy populations) against every foe, we shall always be faced with the dilemma of truncating our capability to inflict violence to achieve foreign policy goals.
I'm sure you and I would agree that given the time span tasked to achieve whatever foreign policy goals were to have been accomplished after Dien Bien Phu to the Fall of Saigon, there never could have been a means for the US to "win" against North Vietnam. Not with the troops afforded and, most especially, the time frame necessary to sate the American voters and Congress.
This, actually, is a telling point you make very well in your essays: Some of the COIN thinkers fail necessary to achieve proper pacification, a timeline that lags compared to what most American voters (and taxpayers) would care to entertain.
It's not LTC Nagl's paygrade to dither over whether it's prudent to, say, spend nine years or so in Phase IV operations in a nation many thousands of miles away from CONUS. The most he is expected to do is lay out for policy elites his best judgment on how certain pacification goals could be achieved, following best practices and the forces available, and let them worry about timelines beyond the purview of the COIN guru.
It's my job to decide when it's time to strike the flag.
Time's about run.
LTC Nagl, I know your brief comments in here, barbed as they were, aren't indicative of your considered, written work.
But I've got to tell you, some of it must be flippancy because I can't believe for a moment you seriously believe that our ARNG and AR elements (and the same lilliputian USMC units) are a "strategic" anything.
If there's any ground force structurally incapable of becoming a hegemonic maneuver mean green machine, it's our ARNG. I bear no ill will toward the Guard by saying what they and you already know -- they're being sliced and diced into FOB/MSR security teams, TT cadres, et al, instead of functioning COIN-worthy brigades for a reason.
You obviously can visit the NTC and JTC logs to see how these units performed before deploying to OIF or OEF, back when we actually practiced battalion-wide move, shoot and communicate moments.
I'm not exactly sure anyone would shrug and say, "Well, we'll just send our strategic reserve because RA is tied down in OIF and OEF now. Take that North Korea."
As for discussing how best to "win" the "Long War" (against?), we can all agree that GEN Chiarelli's perspective on federalizing all aspects of warmaking is a good one, and that USAID and USIA and even the USPS could go more to help.
But to then spatchcock the Advisory Program as if it's part of the immediate warmaking needs is a bit much. That's an issue not because of a crucial need at this very moment (or perhaps even several years down the road) for the "institutionalization" of 20,000 FID-like advisers (and their legacy costs), but because it's become a campaign topic in the US presidential election and could be "institutionalized" by either of the potential candidates.
Having initially championed the idea (well, the discussion of the idea anyway), I'm perhaps not the proper person to critique it in this forum.
But in my opinion, and it's by no means an informed one, it gets to the heart of what COL Gentile is cautioning us about: In an era of post-OIF budget cuts, is it a sage idea to build a 20,000-man capability if we lose core competencies in other areas or so adapt the structure of our forces that we're more akin to the RSA constabulary force of the 1980s than the hegemonic US ground attack of the 1990s?
These are questions I want Gian to ask because I can't forecast that Congress shall adequately do so.
Sorry for the typos. INsomnia.
SNLII,
"If there's any ground force structurally incapable of becoming a hegemonic maneuver mean green machine, it's our ARNG. I bear no ill will toward the Guard by saying what they and you already know -- they're being sliced and diced into FOB/MSR security teams, TT cadres, et al, instead of functioning COIN-worthy brigades for a reason"**
Yes. However please re-visit my above post- if anyone should be the Constabulary Force, it's the ARNG. For one thing, so many of us are already Law Enforcement. Let the RA carve off 50% of itself to maintain the "hegemony".
**if it's the reason I think you mean, with the CTC references...well, with so much less training time and resources...
I will tell you are soldiers are pretty damn smart in their jobs. The mid to senior level leadership can often be hurting. But I saw plenty of that on active duty.
SNLII:
My comments here as with most of my previous post are indeed strident and impassioned; but they are not ad hominem attacks against the man. I go after the ideas of the man as expressed in blog postings and published writings. Those ideas, I hope all would agree, are fair game on the AM blog.
But, SNLII, to some of your other points. First that I have moved “out of my lane.” I Don’t think so. From my foxhole within the American Army I see an American Army that is constructing doctrine that currently and very forcefully suggests a determined approach to a certain type of American foreign policy. There appears to me, as expressed in the writings of people like John Nagl and others, an unquestioned premise of existential American intervention through the lead of military force in the world. As a historian I do not see the trace of American history as a straight line starting in the late 1800s with continuous, and domestically un-contested, American intervention with military force in the world. I do not read American history as scholar Robert Kagan does in his recent World Affairs article, “On Our Neocon Nation,” that American interventions throughout the world (call it imperialism, call it neo-colonialism, call it neo-liberal internationalism, call it roll-back, call it whatever) has largely had consensus agreement on it in the American polity. I see this history of America’s role in the world as a domestic political issue to be highly contentious and not one necessarily of consensus. At times there certainly was consensus (e.g. the Cold War and containment) but the general historical trend has been one of contention.
Tied to this within the American Army many folks think that they have finally discerned a new “American Way of War” and are implementing it through the lead of new doctrine. My reading of Nagl, much of our new doctrine, etc suggests this to be the case. The so-called New American Way of War is a break with the old one which was one of only fighting the big wars then standing down to wait for the next one, and of course not paying much attention at all to small and irregular conflicts. The New American Way of War embraces that latter form of war and along with it a predominant role for American military involvement in the world. But my question is who gets to decide this matter? In the American Army many folks assume the decision has already been made. And they do not fully appreciate the army’s role and influence in this contentious policy matter.
I am still struck (and am surprised that you were not or haven’t commented on it) John Nagl’s published statement that the American soldier, in addition to dominating land warfare, will have the ability to “change entire societies.” I would like to discuss with him what that exactly means in practice for the American Army. As I tried to point out in my previous post, there are real issues here for us in terms of strategy (aligning means with ends by making difficult choices). If we are to be committed into this “brave new world” (and I fully acknowledge, unconditionally, the higher authority to commit us in this world) as a recent article in Military Review on the Army’s new stability doctrine described it, then we should at least be able to have a discussion on how our army that the nation has provided us will get there. It was in that context that I probed at Nagl’s use of the term “judicious changes.” For me trying to think in terms of strategy, there is a huge disparity from the sweep of the statement of “changing entire societies” to only “judicious changes.” Or to put it another way in terms of strategy, how do we get from the here of “judicious changes” to the there of “changing entire societies?” These are things that John Nagl has written who as a highly influential officer in the Army and now defense analyst in our nation’s capital I would like to hear his thoughts.
On a different topic of future conflict/war scenarios all that I tried to do in the previous post was get folks to break out of the conception given to us by many of a future filled with irregular warfare (it will certainly be that, and much more). That future it seems to me is narrowly conceived and potentially dangerous in terms of strategic capability in how we arrange our military forces for that future. I think the scenario of Iran that I provided is reasonable along with the possibility that at the tactical level the Iranians might fight us like Hiz did against the IDF in 2006. I certainly don’t except as most likely what a senior officer recently told me that if we did go into Iran they would simply melt away into the population and fight us like Iraqi insurgents. It is that kind of thinking in my mind that is narrow. I am trying to get folks to think outside of the “box” that writers like Nagl continuously try to force us into in terms of future conflict and war. As I tried to state in my previous post, I am not saying that the future holds the past; that is to say state-on-state warfare like the Russo-Japanese War of 1904. Instead I am trying to construct a sense of future war and conflict that will not constrain us in how we organize our military forces for the future. By focusing so much on “irregular war” and “global counterinsurgencies” in the future I worry that we will slowly but surely end up with a predominantly light infantry force that can really only do global Coin. The response to that assertion is usually “Oh come on, things won’t end up that way, we will figure out the right balance somehow.” I am more pessimistic and that pessimism is based on hard facts in the Army today, hence the example of NTC doing only Coin training for combat brigades.
Thanks SNLII for your usual balanced comments. I hope that I addressed them reasonably and that others will join in on what I think is a vital debate for our Army and the nation.
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"Those ideas, I hope all would agree, are fair game on the AM blog."
I agree completely, Gian. I wasn't suggesting that your response to LTC Nagl was ad hominem, but rather that you would were bringing up a point that was beyond his purview as a military historian/systems analyst.
In my opinion, I thought it was unfair to suggest that his writings preordained a colonialist foreign policy, by advocating a certain force structure and training regimen. He doesn't make the call on how forces shall be used, but must be prepared to have them answer the country's needs when they are.
It reminds me a bit of CJCS Powell's military. By intentionally avoiding the institutionalizing of certain lessons learned (remember, when we used to call in "irregular warfare" or MOOTW?) after Somalia, Bosnia and Kosovo, he seemed to posit a military that could do only one thing, the blitzkriegiest, most hegemonic force in the history of the world.
But LTC Nagl is correct about some other points -- the wars we increasingly find ourselves waging don't call for much in the way of advanced, networked blitzkriegy warmaking (except to get into the mess).
He is asked by the Army: Tell us how to do pacification operations. He tells them.
I disagree with some aspects of this analysis, and especially from COIN thinkers different from LTC Nagl, and I further agree with you that the "lessons" from Vietnam have been tortured in such a way to create a myth historical research won't support.
To be fair, it should be forthrightly stated that I've never heard or read any ad hominem attack you've ever made against others, although I concede that I've read some against you, including some very dismissive words on SWJ.
"The so-called New American Way of War is a break with the old one which was one of only fighting the big wars then standing down to wait for the next one, and of course not paying much attention at all to small and irregular conflicts. "
Perhaps because I began all of this in the USMC, I sense institutionally just how invested the American military has been in small, irregular wars since th creation of our republic. The USA also became embroiled in these adventures (and misadventures), from the prolonged conquest of the North American aboriginal plains warrior societies to counter-insurgency in the Philippines, then into the Cold War of Vietnam, Haiti, Guatemala, et al.
But it's one of degrees, isn't it? It's one thing to have the entire USMC invested in putting out fires, especially in our hemisphere, but not the entire US military, spending upwards of 3-4 percent of GDP on nation building experiments (although I would argue that the most direct comparison to our current stew, the long years of the Philippine Insurrection, also combined nearly all of our Army for various deployments, including a large allotment of our ARNG).
"Yes. However please re-visit my above post- if anyone should be the Constabulary Force, it's the ARNG. For one thing, so many of us are already Law Enforcement. Let the RA carve off 50% of itself to maintain the "hegemony".
My real name has advocated some of these same themes, Elf. When I studied the ARNG in the years after 2001, I began to see a force that was poorly employed within the strategic structure.
First, we won't go into all the ghost employment, bad rolls, poorly led and poorly trained troops, the collapse of ARNG recruiting and the poor readiness state of whole divisions. We knew about this in 1990, too.
It is a part-time force, and we can't be too picky when it isn't exactly rushing out of the gates like the 101st.
Also, Big Army did a supremely bad job of oversight of the training these units received before heading out to NTC or JTC, so in many ways they were set up to fail. ANd I would argue that they did fail at their core missions in OIF in 2005-06, but NOT exactly due to their own faults.
RA failed, too. So did USMC.
As you know, there are civilian profession codes that track any volunteer to the ARNG. I actually had the chance to play around with those fields once in an analysis. It's interesting to note all those people one would thing would be perfect to fight COIN -- cops, journalists, social scientist, inquisitive students of these same disciplines -- who already are there, in the ranks, but aren't being exploited for their talents.
I've written elsewhere that I believe the US military should dump many of its industrial age regimentation and join the 21st century, especially with units devoted to COIN. I watched in my AO as men who, in civilian life, never would have done any of the BS they were asked to do in GEN Casey's COIN fight in Anbar -- these included homicide detectives, investigative reporters and others who kept scratching their heads and saying, "There is a better way to do this. WHy not let us show you how?"
They weren't carved into smart, experienced, nimble teams because the Army doesn't do that, except with SF/SOF, of which I have some experience because of USMC cross-training with them and formal schooling.
Let's just say that if you're working on a FID team, and there are no obvious ranks because everyone -- commissioned and otherwise -- calls each other by his first name and has cross-trained to know each other's jobs, it's easier to exploit experience and implement it on the battlefield.
Now, I know LTC Nagl has written about the need for a 20,000 man Advisory effort, and I certainly don't wish to erect a strawman about writings he hasn't fleshed out.
But I would argue that we don't need to reinvent everything. If we looked creatively at our ARNG ranks, we would see that the experienced, citizen soldiers within are uniquely predisposed to doing COIN, sparking economic development, running villages and unscrewing snarled infrastructure BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY DO IN THEIR DAY JOBS.
I don't want an investigative reporter walking point in Anbar as an 11B. I want him part of a team that ferrets out "nodes" in the interlinked criminal syndicates funding the insurrection. Will he walk point? Damn straight he will, but he'll also do far more because he's capable of doing far more.
The Robbery Squad detective knows more about suspicious behavior, even in a foreign culture, than the S-2 lunkhead sending out emails from his bunker at BCT. I don't want that cop running the Motor T on a FOB. I want him retrained to be an adviser with the IPs.
I could go on and on but you saw the same things I saw. It's a supreme waste of manpower.
If we're going to get serious about the Phase IV reality of the "brave new world" of 5GW (or 6GW!), then we should simply suggest that restructuring the ARNG and AR and USMCR to do much of this isn't a bad idea.
Instead, we have cops driving Strykers.
SNLII:
Using the talents (I hate the word "skillset" - it seems far too corporate, or "Office Space-ish") of soldiers and Marines to their utmost is, or should be, an uncontroversial proposition.
As a CivilianWhoHasNeverServedNorBeentoIraq (feel free to call me CWHNSBTI) though, What procedures would you put in place to do so, though? Presumably personnel policies would have to be revamped considerably? At what point would one start sorting people out?
As an aside, I just read in my college alumni magazine* about a grad who enlisted in the USMC, and was assigned as company clerk, although also served as company intelligence coordinator, or some form of non- or quasi-MI MOS. How would enlisted soldiers with deep skillsets mesh with the personnel system - would you advocate more "Specialist" ranks, or more Warrant Officers, etc.?
I was struck by how much Gates' appointment of Petraeus to coax the promotion board into promoting McMaster, etc., corresponded to Stephen P. Rosen's theory of military innovation. One must acquire legitimacy, and hence buy-in, by coopting (perhaps the wrong word) the stakeholders. A leader from outside (Rumsfeld?) will have limited success in creating change; a leader from outside (Gates?) who uses leader from inside (Petraeus?) to achieve change will enjoy greater success. So I would ask: precisely what mechanisms or processes would be needed to put in place the changes you seek?
Finally, may I offer the hypothesis that there is something of a conflict within the military between what you propose - let's call it the rational allocation of positions based on needs and abilities - and a different logic within the military: put bluntly, infantry or SOF is where it's at, and how dare someone think they're too good to be an 11B. The Army works to support 11Bs, and combat arms (and SOF) more generally. In other words, I suspect the appropriate academic debate might be the conflict between logics of appropriateness and logics of consequentiality. Are there deep-seated cultural antagonisms toward what you propose, even if it might indeed appear to help win wars?
How does one respond to Eliot Cohen's observation (pace Nagl, page 218 of the U of Chicago Paperback Edition) that corporate America has changed from the 1950s, but the military has not?
Thanks
[My incredibly unwieldy acronym above]
Amen! To a great post and comments by all.
Best critique of a Gentile article I've seen yet.
Kudos, to all who posted comments. it turned the read into a real productive discussion.
Icredibly unwieldy acronym, for someone who says he's never been in the military, you certainly have studied the canon.
Is he in your class, Gian?
You're absolutely right. What I pointed out was my own hobbyhorsical conception. I have no doubt that we'll never turn the ARNG into what it would best be (a "support" -- the term doesn't really apply to COIN -- element that matches civilian skillsets to military needs).
Why? Because ARNG generals are a very powerful lobby and they like to play with tanks and say that they're as good as RA two weeks out of every year while they're watching investigative reporters, comparative lit majors, cops and civil servants shoot the tables at Drum.
Indeed, DoD is doing exactly the opposite of what I recommended because they're going to a system down the road wherein ARNG battalions will "deploy" every few years on regular cycles and "replace" an active duty BCT in the force mix.
I won't get into the incredibly complex (and unresolved) issues inherent to this undertaking, but I just had a status briefing on it during a recent seminar at Colorado Springs amongst some very high ranking people, and they're convinced it's going to happen once OIF and OEF wind down.
To some extent, we already screen people for their proper roles all the time. There are intelligence tests (well, call them whatever you want) that sorts volunteers by their aptitudes. A friend of mine in intel believes we should start sorting people by "personalities," too, such as the Briggs exam to better pair Soldiers to their missions, but I'm not so sure about that.
Again, I don't want to put words into LTC Nagl's mouth because he hasn't fleshed out his Advisory Corps proposal, but suffice it to say that the USMC envisions a very different sort of core competency requirement for their RCTs, a means of "institutionalizing" the mission without, they believe, plugging in a new bureaucracy, et al.
That's probably unfair to LTC Nagl's proposed program, but I haven't seen much about it beyond the theoretical justification for it and the existing Leavenworth system that he, actually, helped to create from scratch.
I would say that my time on the MTT was closer to my experiences as a Marine tasked out to a SF team (we used to do these sorts of things on ad hoc bases, too, before SOF became as joint as it is now), without the rigid rank structure and we were all infantry (plus a medic) so it can be done.
I also think that if we changed the way we organized and managed troops, we might be able to attract more of them.
Currently, 19 percent of the Army's MOSs are over-filled because bean counters are trying to preserve the illusion of numbers (much as stop-loss has a tendency to artificially inflate re-enlistment rates), so in the shortrun my little pet project seems pretty inconsequential. I'd just like for us to have more infantry (like me) to do all the missions infantry is supposed to be doing.
One would think that eight years into the brand-named "Long War," we might have achieved that before we decide to plug and then play the new 20,000 Advisory Corps game.
"As a historian I do not see the trace of American history as a straight line starting in the late 1800s with continuous, and domestically un-contested, American intervention with military force in the world."
Bravo Gentile! This is the discussion that must be hammered out. After exhaustive debate, if the American people and their representatives in DC believe that our military should be on a mission to Democratize and police the World, then let us Save The Darfurians and Smite the Mullahs in Qom!
After our invasion and policing of Iraq, I believe Americans do not wish to be regime changers or Globo Cops. It is too costly in terms of money and men.
If we were to pull out of the ME, would oil soar to $200.00 per barrell? Well guess what, it may be $200.00 very soon with our very large footprint there.
So what's the effing point?
SNLII:
Just to clarify my critique of Nagl's writings were not directed at his call for an advisor corps (although I disagree with the army doing it and actually think that based on my experience the TTs I worked with were pretty good. What kind of evidence do we have to suggest that things will get better in Iraq if we build this corps? The Advisor team is not the key to success of the ISF; instead it is the conditions of the country that wrap around them, sectarian hatred, corruption, etc. Fix those things and the ISF becomes much better. Case in point is Anbar; what has brought relative peace to that area? Certainly not a brand new corps of advisors. Instead it was a decision to pay and work with the tribes who were our former enemies and ally with us against alqueda. Once they did that and also agreed to work with the local ISF things got better). Just some of my thoughts on the notion of an advisory corps.
But my critique toward Nagl was beyond the advisory corps. I agree with you that it would be unfair for me to critique his ideas of an advisory corps because I disagree with the policy that was set for the army that he has to work within (along with me too).
No, my critique toward him was with his recent writings that suggest a close affiliation with policy development. I am still struck by this sentence from him in the RUSI review of Brian Linn's new book where Nagl says that the American soldier will not only have to dominate land warfare but also be able
"to change entire societies."
I don’t know about you but that sounds like the realm of policy to me; No??
And I do think we should at least acknowledge that what we have is the American Army through its new doctrine taking the lead and establishing institutions for nation-building. In the process of establishing these institutions by the Army it seems to me our overall foreign policy has become further militarized as a result. And I ask again, who gets to decide this?
Gian Gentile's posts addressing the Nagl prescriptions have coalesced my thinking WRT COIN. I'm particularly struck by Gentile's fears of military capabilities driving policy, which leads me to believe that this focus on COIN is dangerous. It's pretty clear to me that Nagl and many of the COIN crowd are content with—indeed approving of—the idea of the military being the face of U.S. foreign policy.
I disagree. This mindset has already caused a disaster in the Mideast, and I don't want see any perpetuation of this notion that the military can solve all of the ills of the world. Yes, the Army needs to be able to do COIN, but, no, COIN must not be the end-all and be-all of the branch's existence. The Army is here to defend the United States of America, not to be a 911 service for the world. I'll forecast it for you COIN guys: if you win, budgets will dry up and the American people will turn from you. Just as they are going to turn from nifty foreign adventures. Noticed how the stock market's doing these days? We ain't going to do this again.
You COIN guys are mechanics, trying to troubleshoot and somehow get the engine that politicians have ruined into good working order. That's laudable, as is your drive to get the Army focused on what you believe to be more meaningful pursuits. But I say you're wrong. In fact, I'd say, if you want to do COIN for your military career, you run the risk of following a fundamentally un-American path. Do you want to be Hessians? Do you want to weaken the Army?
America is not about evangelism when it comes to exporting freedom and democracy. America is about "the city on the hill," about the "beacon of freedom," not about killing people who pose no threat to the U.S. The irony with you COIN guys is that in 1775 you would have been lined up with George III against the American colonists.
Yeah, there has to be a COIN capability. It's part of the tool kit. There will be times. But, gee, Army guys, can't you do that within existing units without forming a whole new bureaucracy? And from the personal perspective, do you want to spend your entire careers as hired guns for some of the regimes with which our nation has to deal?
I spent 21 years on active duty during the Cold War, enlisted, officer, RA integration, the whole deal. Always had a sense of purpose. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't do it today, in an Army desperately looking for a purpose, an Army not content with just being the big dog on the block.
Just to prove that elsewhere COL GEntile and LTC Nagl actually agree about some things, I give you their take on the USMC's sniper hunter teams.
Click my name.
SNLII,
Thanks, I'm sure you did advocate just that (using ARNG for their real skills rather than...well, WTF were we doing in 06?).
I LOVE the link to the inner city soldier skill training. It wasn't just cops wasted in my unit. It was the street kids from Newark and Camden as well. Wallah what a waste of talent. My FED/ICE gunner might have had a thing to observe or two as well. Keep that going...I mean the street smarts thing. I am sure you've read "city without Joy"*.
Oh well. Click on my name for my email. There's a few hundred such "assets" headed your way now. Or that way, anyway.
Ummm....one point. The idea that we deploy every few years...no. The ones who deploy do so every year. Like RA, just less OPTEMPO.
I think you already know that, it's just for GP education that I mention it.
I sh*t you not. My friends who are back like me less than a year are being told 1) go with your friends, or 2) play the draft lottery, and go with strangers.
*Lotta smart Aussies out there, you notice?
"the demise of the Soviet Union, the proliferation of nuclear weapons and precision guided conventional weapons, and the globalization of information have made conventional state-on-state war somewhat less likely in the 21st century, and irregular warfare a rather better choice for our adversaries." (Nagl)
I think there was another reason that frontal warfare became less likely in recent years, and one that bears on this discussion, to wit: the army/marine/air force that stormed to Baghdad in 2003 was just so effective that no army in the world could stand against it. We saw, for example, the Russian military (even as it was fighting a major insurgency in Chechnya) trying rather forlornly to rebuild itself along American lines at the turn of the century.
Okay. We now rebuild the army (and presumably the marines) into the perfect small-wars force. Maybe we even get as good at this as the Brits in Malaya long ago, or the Israelis more recently against the Intifada.... Unbeatable COINsters!
Wouldn't the next enemy in that case lay in ambush with near-conventional forces, much as Hesbollah did to the IDF in Lebanon? Could, for example, Col Nagl's spoon-equipped army beat the PLA in the field?
Again, thanks for the blog. The ensuing arguments have been as fascinating as the post that inspired them. Blue skies! -- Dan Ford
Dan Ford,
Yes you raise a valid point. I think we can do both, provided LTC GG and the other thinker/rebels (from now on T/R) stop them from going over the cliff. Hybrid warfare will sell.
BTW...I think you raised a point about using cyber de nommes earlier.
Uh...get Lifelock or Privacy Guard or something if you are going to use your real name on the web.
Tchuss.
Doc Irack:
I just finished reading the intro, conclusion, and chapter 3 (the rise of the insurgency) in the Army's new history, "On Point II" which is available now for download.
Ref the argument that I have been making that by mid 2004 by and large Army units at the tactical level across the board in Iraq were conducting best practices in Coin.
Consider this conclusion from "on Point II's" chapter 3 about the overall performance of army units at the tactical level in Iraq:
"Without relying on doctrine or experience, US Army units transitioned to a practice of full-spectrum operations that, by the end of 2003, followed many well established principles of counterinsurgency."
This has been the point I have been making all along relative to the Surge beginning in 2007. That essentially the notion of discontinuity between Surge and pre-Surge actions at the small unit level is wrongheaded. Instead there was much more continuity as the above quote from the new Army history makes clear. Which again gets to the more important point that I argue in this World Affairs article and that is what really did lower violence in Summer 2007 if it was not new tactics being applied? Answer is the other broader conditions that wrapped around the Surge that lowered the violence. But what we have is American Army assessments that look back on their units in the immediate wake of the lowering of violence and for many understandable reasons ascribe the application of American combat power as the primary causative factor for the lowering. This, in my mind, is a fundamental misreading of the causes and by the American Army convincing itself that our so-called new coin tactics worked we continue to drive ourselves down the road to a coin-only force carrying out many more of these missions in the future because we have convinced ourselves that they have worked in Iraq.
Too, "On Point II" makes an implicit argument for maintaining the American Army's primary focus toward higher-end fighting. If the American Army at the tactical level in Iraq in 2003 as the war began adjusted very quickly to coin and did well at it from the get go, and it did so without a formal doctrine and training for coin, then one needs to ask why we need to restructure the American Army toward irregular warfare when a higher-end structured army can do just fine at those types of missions. "On Point II" brings out clearly that the problems in Iraq as they developed in 2003-2004 had more to do with policy and strategy decisions like Bremer's call for de-baathification than the way american army combat units were carrying out coin on the ground. Don’t get me wrong here, the American Army is certainly in need of restructuring away from the World War II model, but it should not be toward a constabulary, nation building force where some folks argue that the higher-end forms of fighting abilities should be nested in the army reserve and national guard. That in my mind is a recipe for strategic disaster.
If nothing else, "On Point II" should hopefully demolish the myth that except for select units like the 101 and 3ACR, etc the American Army was trying to fight World War II all over again in the streets of Baghdad and Tikrit is just simply utter nonsense.
gg
LTC GG,
"but it should not be toward a constabulary, nation building force where some folks argue that the higher-end forms of fighting abilities should be nested in the army reserve and national guard."
No, that would be insanity. It should exactly be the reverse, as I posted above.
Marketing tip: you need to keep the message simple, preferably one word.
Examples; "Awakening", "Surge",
"COIN", "Change". I recommend "Hybrid Warfare". We live in the age of the sound bite, not the scholar, Sir.
Sorry.
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